I am slowly positioning my largest (but by no means only) SIPP towards investment trusts.
Why? You can read the full reasoning in my previous articles that:
- Put forward investment trusts as one solution for retirement income.
- Made the case for active management in deaccumulation.
- Explained the traits I look for in such trusts.
Basically it boils down to a combination of in-built diversification, (mostly) reasonable charges, and a proven investment model that in many cases goes back over a hundred years.
That said, investment trusts differ widely in their suitability for income-focused retirees.
Fitness for purpose
Take, for instance, Scottish Mortgage. While I’m a huge admirer of Scottish Mortgage (and a holder, in another portfolio), its miserly yield is of little use once an investor moves from a strategy of accumulation to one of deaccumulation.
Likewise, as with index trackers and investment funds in general, costs are everything. Why pay virtually double, for a more or less identical performance? For the unwary, it’s easily possible.
Which is why, this time last year, I published a table of retiree-focused data on a selection of investment trusts.
And now, I’ve updated it.
Yearly review
One year on, not much has happened – which is exactly as it should be in the (mostly) slow and steady world of investment trusts.

There are however some points worth making about a few of these trusts. (In the discussion that follows I’ve marked with an asterisk those I personally hold).
- Yields are up, right across the board. No surprise there, what with the FTSE 100 down some 800 points since May 2015, having hit an all-time high of 7104 on April 27th, just days before. Generalist trust Murray Income* now offers a yield of 4.78%, for instance, while Asian specialist Aberdeen Asian Income* yields 5.07%.
- Some trusts that I judge of interest to income-seeking retirees have reduced their charges – most notably the two Invesco trusts managed by Mark Barnett, after Neil Woodford decamped to run his own outfit.
- Two contrarian trusts led by well-established, highly-regarded managers (Temple Bar* and Murray International*) are now characterised by a discount, not a premium. Temple Bar, for instance, has a 12-month average discount of 5.07%.
- Costs remain a differentiator. Schroder Income Growth has this year increased its ongoing charge from 0.94% to 1.00%. But six of its top ten holdings are the same as the lowest-charging investment trust in the selection – the much-admired Job Curtis managed City of London* – where charges have been reduced from 0.44% to 0.42%.
Personal account
Finally, how has my own SIPP performed over the period?
The capital is down in line with the market, as you would expect. But income has risen by an appreciable amount, and has been reinvested in further purchases of investment trust shares.
Gradually, the proportion represented by trackers, ETFs, and direct shareholdings is reducing, and the proportion represented by income-centric investment trusts is increasing.
On retirement – still slated for nine years away, when I’m 70 – I shall simply switch the income from reinvestment to funding the cost of living.
Note: As mentioned, while not in any sense a recommendation, Greybeard’s own holdings among the investment trusts are indicated by an asterisk. You might want to read the rest of his posts about deaccumulation and retirement.
Good reads from around the Web.
One thing led to another this week, and so Weekend Reading had a rare hiatus from its usual Saturday slot.
(But let’s face it – even the most curmudgeonly of us were surely enjoying the fact they weren’t being snowed on in London, in Spring, as happened very briefly to me last week).
Here’s a Sunday heatwave edition of our weekend links.
I have explained in the past that while everyone can expect to do well from investing in a broad basket of shares over time, seeking to try to do better than the market – active investing, in other words – is a zero sum game.
In that long post I wrote:
…‘Alpha’ cannot be magicked out of thin air.
The only place an active manager can go to get more or fewer shares than are held by the market is by dealing with other active investors in that market.
(Because the passive investors by definition hold the market).
And then you have to subtract those higher costs.
Those higher costs mean that in aggregate, investors in active funds see lower returns than passive investors.
Now, this doesn’t mean any individual active investor – or active fund – can’t do better than the market.
Some can beat the market, and some very few do.
What it means is that overall, as a group, they must do worse than the equivalent passive index funds.
It means ignoring marketing rubbish like “active funds come into their own and trash trackers when the market goes down because they’re able to take action to sell the expensive shares” or similar nonsense.
As a group, this is impossible. They can only buy and sell shares to other active investors. Hence one active fund can only win at another active fund’s expense. In the meantime, investors in both the winning and losing active fund are paying higher cost than index fund investors, so in sum they are losing out.
(All that said, some active funds do better than index funds in bear markets – but this is typically because they hold a slug of cash to meet client redemptions, and this cash doesn’t fall when the market does. In contrast index funds are always very near fully invested).
Warren Buffett explains the truth about active investing
I’m still pretty happy with my explanation of why active investing is a zero sum game – and it has a cool graph courtesy of Vanguard – but I will happily defer to Warren Buffett on almost anything, including this.
Because Buffett just gave a simpler and clearer explanation to some 40,000 people at the Berkshire Hathaway annual shareholder meeting.
You can watch his explanation in the video below.
Unfortunately Yahoo Finance doesn’t allow me to start the video at the specific spot, so you’ll need to manually fast-forward to the 2h 42m and 20 second mark:
After explaining how he is wildly wining his bet that a low-cost S&P index fund would beat a handpicked collection of hedge funds, Buffett quipped:
“Now that may sound like a terrible result for hedge funds, but it’s not a terrible result for the hedge fund managers. […]
There’s been far, far, far more money made by people in Wall Street through salesmanship abilities than through investment abilities.”
Keep watching past the recap of his anti-hedge fund bet to the section where Buffett divides the stadium audience in half, and explains how the passive 50% must do better than the active 50%.
I literally couldn’t do better myself. (I tried!)
- Finally convinced tracker funds are best for you? See our passive investing HQ to get started.
Good reads from around the Web.
However you slice it, investing involves risk. That’s true whether you’re buying shares in a tiny mining company operating in Venezuela or investing monthly into a global index fund.
Certainly, the risks are not the same.
But both involve some risk, in the same way that me and George Clooney are both attractive to women.
Technically that’s true, and it would be true for any man – better than technically, in a good light, with the right lady, on the right day.
But if you were going to place a bet, George would win (nearly) every time.
Similarly, investing via funds instead of individual stocks spreads and reduces your risks, but it doesn’t do away with risk entirely.
With index funds, massive horizontal diversification largely insulates you from the risk of a particular company going bust.
But only vertical diversification (spreading your wealth between asset classes) can help to offset the risk of a disaster in the entire asset class.
Decimal pointlessness
Every so often a reader will leave a comment on Monevator that includes something along the lines of “…my 30-year plan is based around the 5.3436% real return I’ll get from equities and…”
This is spurious precision.
It’s great to have a financial plan – vital for most people. And a plan needs to be fed by numbers, which for investors means expected returns.
These expected returns may be derived from what we’ve seen in the past or calculated from some predictions about the future.
But they are best guesses. Nobody is owed their expected return (and all investments can fail you.)
To some extent this is pedantry on my part, of the sort that occasionally infuriates my co-blogger, The Accumulator.
People are confused and scared enough about investing, he says, on discovering I’ve shoehorned another “probably”, “hopefully”, “likely”, or “if the gods are kind to us and we sacrifice the right chickens” into his copy.
But for me investing is all about understanding you’re working with your best guesses, not from a rulebook with the precision of a German train table.
He knows that, of course. You know that, too. And at the end of the day, my complaints might well be pedantic because when somebody asks me if they should invest in shares for their old-age, the first thing I do is point out the superior expected long-term returns (which I put a hoped-for number on) and the second thing I do is direct them to the great long-term returns from the past.
However after doing all that, I invariably then pin them to the wall and splutter crazily in their face like an Old Testament prophet about how nothing is guaranteed in this Earthly realm expect death and changes to taxes with every Budget from George Osborne.
The truth is much of what we take for granted in sensible investing – the need to diversify, the long-term time horizons, the benefits of low cost tracker funds – are at their heart founded on uncertainty, not its opposite.
We should never forget that.
A poor 50 years for shares
Even the past is an unreliable teacher, as two different articles looking at US returns demonstrated this week.
The first, from Bill Barker at The Motley Fool, pointed out that for all the ceaseless talk of an over-valued stock market, returns have actually tailed off in recent decades.
Barker writes:
I was born in the middle of 1965. A full 50 years have passed since then. That’s been enough time for me to get married, have three children, and sprout some gray hairs.
But it’s also enough time, I think, to consider whether it’s been a decent time to be invested.
If you had invested $1 in the S&P 500 on Jan. 1, 1966, and reinvested all dividends (and somehow endured no costs), then you would have ended up with $102.17 at the end of market trading on Dec. 31, 2015.
That’s 102 times your money. That sounds outrageously good. But was it?
Actually, it didn’t match historical averages.
The past 50 years’ stock returns, on the whole, haven’t quite been up to snuff compared with either the longer-term historical averages or the 50 years that immediately preceded that half-century.
Barker reports that the real 1 return from US equities between 1916 to 1966 was 7.9%, whereas from 1966 to 2016 it was a mere 5.4%.
That’s interesting, I think, considering that many people would describe the past 50 years as the coming of age of global capitalism.
Why were returns lower? There are likely many reasons. The US started the 20th Century as pretty much an emerging market, for example, which suggests higher returns. The growing popularity of share investing over the century likely did pull down the returns compared to its earlier, wilder days.
And then there’s the possibility that the US market has actually done more badly than might have been expected in recent decades.
Perhaps we’re due a huge boom – it seems counter-intuitive for all the talk of bubbles and over-valuation, but the stupendous returns from bonds over the past 30 years does hint to me that we might be approaching some sort of reversal of fortunes.
A great 30 years for shares
Another massive reason for Barker’s weaker returns – a reason you should always consider when faced with such volatile data – is simply that the starting and ending points for that 50-year were particularly unfavourable for equities.
Looking at the other article I mentioned, this time from Bloomberg, brings this point home.
Bloomberg highlights a new McKinsey study that considers just the past 30 years for US equities, which the consultants call a “Golden Era” of inflation-adjusted returns.
True, they’re looking at bonds as well as equities. But still it’s interesting to consider that you could have a completely different frame of mind about how your investments will likely fair in the future depending on which article you happened to skim through over your toast.
McKinsey points to falling interest rates and the taming of inflation over the past three decades as reasons why investors did so well in the period. It thinks these could now reverse.
Here’s its findings – and 20-year forward predictions – in pretty picture form:

Lower your expectations, says the group:
“We’ve had a wonderful 30-year period in terms of returns, way more than the 100-year average,” said Richard Dobbs, a McKinsey director in London.
“That era is coming to an end.”
He may well be right. He’s much too certain.
A strong 10 years ahead for emerging market shares?
Who really knows how the next 20 to 30 years are going to play out for the world, let alone for investors.
When I think about the pace of technological change, the way a company like Facebook can grow from nothing to over $300 billion in a little over a decade and capture the attention of a billion people a day, the coming era of robotics and AI, the likelihood of ecosystems collapsing, and what will happen if and when inflation returns to the Western world, I think it’s foolish to be adamant.
I’d happily use the McKinsey study as a well-researched guide to the future.
I wouldn’t bet my life on it being right.
Coincidentally, there’s research in The Telegraph this weekend that tries to predict future returns from factors such as credit availability and demographics, rather than from past returns.
Fund manager Barings has been crunching the numbers like this since 2003, which means it’s now getting itself a track record. A superficial eyeballing of the accuracy of its past predictions is quite impressive, especially considering that the cataclysm of the financial crisis in the mix.
Here’s what Barings predicts in terms of asset class returns for the next 10 years:

For the two cents it’s worth, this spread of returns does roughly accord with my own view of the world right now (and it makes me regret selling my high-yield bonds after a three-month pop in my active portfolio…)
But remember that most methods of forecasting returns have previously proven to be useless over the long-term. Barings might be having a good run, but it seems unlikely to have cracked the code.
Nobody knows for sure if it’s a good time to invest in shares
All this uncertainty doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have a well-planned approach to investing.
It means, rather, that you should definitely have a well-planned approach to investing.
For nearly everyone, attempting to precisely predict returns or to dodge stock market crashes based on some particular variable looking peaky are only likely to hurt the growth of their portfolio.
As Ben Carlson at A Wealth Of Common Sense wrote this week:
The biggest issue for most investors has not been the active vs. passive debate or investment costs — it’s been those who have latched on to the pessimistic parade of charlatans who have kept people out of the markets with scare tactics and fear mongering.
Being out of the market for the past 7-10 years has been far more damaging that any difference in mutual fund fees.
The drumbeat of negativity — persistent calls for double dip recessions, market crashes and the end of the financial system as we know it — has been nearly endless during this market recovery. […]
It’s possible that this could be one of the strongest bull markets some investors will see in their lifetimes. These types of gains don’t come around too often and are promised to no investor.
Even being invested in a mediocre fund would have given you pretty great annual returns over the past 3 and 5 years.
It was far more destructive to sit in cash the entire time because you were still nervous about the financial crisis.
If you think missing out on ten years is bad, you probably don’t want to see what would happen if you avoided at least some moderate dollops of equities in your pension planning for a lifetime.
- That is, inflation-adjusted.[↩]
- How to buy your first index trackers
- Choosing an investment platform: A nuts and bolts guide
- Picking an index tracker out of the investing swamp
- How to choose the best index trackers #1: Basics
- How to choose the best index trackers #2: Costs
- How to choose the best index trackers #3: Overlooked stuff
- How to choose the best index trackers #4: ETF-only features
- How to find index funds
- How to find Exchange Traded Funds
- How to buy and sell ETFs
- How to buy and sell index tracker funds
The act of buying your first index tracker is a big leap of faith (in yourself) and requires considerable courage.
I’ve known a fair few would-be lion hearts who were all set to make the leap into DIY passive investing, only to back away because they weren’t sure how to implement their strategy in the real world.
By the real world, of course, I mean the virtual world of execution-only online investment platforms – because this is where DIY investors do our shopping.
Read the first post in this series for a guide on how to buy index trackers.
Once you know where to go and have a shortlist of online brokers or fund supermarkets to choose from, the most important considerations are:
- Range
- Cost
- Picking the right account
- Service
Range: What’s in stock
With thousands of funds available, not every investment platform will stock all the funds you want.
If your heart’s set on a particular fund, then check your preferred platform carries it before signing up. Just grab the fund’s ISIN code from the fund provider’s website (you’ll find it on the fund fact sheet) and stick it into the platform’s search engine to be sure they have it.
UK online stockbrokers will usually offer most or all of the ETFs listed on the London Stock Exchange. If you want to trade say, US-listed ETFs, then call the broker directly to check availability.
Keep fees low
Other than fund choice, the main point of difference between execution-only investment platforms is the amount of fees they can dream up.
Naturally, passive investors like to cut prices like Wembley groundsmen like to cut grass, so be aware of:
- Platform charges
- ISA annual management charge*
- SIPP annual management charge
- Inactivity fees* (paid if you haven’t traded in a while)
- Dealing fees
- Dividend reinvestment fees
- Fund switching fees (moving out of one fund to another)
- Fund transfer fees (moving your funds to another platform)
- Cash withdrawal fees*
I’ve asterisked the fees that you shouldn’t have to pay because there are good platforms out there that don’t levy those charges.
Dealing fees will apply to ETFs, but they are easily avoided for index funds. If you’re an investors with less than £20,000 in assets and like to make monthly investment contributions, then choose a broker who charges a percentage platform fee but doesn’t charge dealing fees for funds.
A few other wrinkles to look out for:
- Some brokers will offer a batch of commission-free trades that may make their charges worth paying, if you’re active enough.
- Check that your platform’s list of charges includes VAT. Some do, some don’t.
- If you’re assets amount to more than £20,000, then it’s usually better to pay low-ish flat-fees than a percentage nibble of your assets that’ll grow into an almighty chomp as your investments grow over the years.
Choose the right account
Most execution-only platforms offer several different flavours of investment account. It’s worth taking some time to select the right one for your needs.
Ignoring the siren calls of no-go attractions like spreadbetting, the typical choices for passive investors to consider are:
- Dealing or trading account – To hold investments held out of an ISA or SIPP tax shelter.
- Regular investing accounts – Put your contributions on auto-pilot with a monthly direct debit. If you’re buying index funds then you shouldn’t have to pay dealing charges, but do look out for the minimum contribution required per fund. £25 is very good, £50 is standard. If you’re into ETFs then you can’t do better than regular dealing charges of £1.50 per purchase.
- ISA accounts – Wrap up your money in an ISA tax repellent! You’ll typically want an ISA dealing account for long-term investing, but the new Lifetime ISA that’s on its way could be worth considering if you’re young enough to qualify. There are Junior ISAs for children, too.
- SIPP accounts – Choose your own pension funds.
Note: The actual account terminology may differ, depending on the provider and the range of services they offer. Don’t be bamboozled.
Once you’ve plumped for an account, it only remains to register it online, hook it up to a bank account, and prime it with cash for your first investment. Debit card payments, direct debits and BACS transfers are the standard ways of doing this.
Are you being serviced?
Service is important, of course. But I don’t sweat it for a few reasons.
There is little to choose between the different platforms in my experience when it comes to service, from the perspective of a hands-off passive investor. Pick any company and you can always find horror stories from ‘Outraged of the Forum’ but that way can lie analysis-paralysis. You can also out the hundreds of comments beneath our broker comparison table for any recent talk of problems.
In practice, online investment platforms offer about the same level of service, diversity, and complexity you might expect from an online bank account. If you can operate one of those and you understand the principles of investing, then you’re in business.
Bear in mind that we passive investors are relatively low maintenance and have little need for the gold-plated services demanded by the more shrill voices online.
It’s ultimately a matter of priorities. One company with a superior reputation for customer service is Hargreaves Lansdown – but it’s far from the cheapest option.
If you feel you truly need that reassurance then go for it, but remember that small costs really add up over the long-term when investing.
Take it steady,
The Accumulator

